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Why did they take this out of the game

9/13/2017 4:36PM

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  • 8 days ago

    They'll never switch it back because they clearly have had plenty of the "no child left behind" participation trophy Kool Aid so they pander to the lowest common denominator. Which are the players that wouldn't know an orange from a baseball if you gave them 3 bites and 2 chances to answer. The decision to get rid of showing the handedness of the pitcher had nothing to do with people backing out of games. You think a company with obsolete servers gives a crap about you having to try multiple times to get in a game?! If they did they would've upgraded their servers so you wouldn't get matchup failed, server errors, lost connections with opponent, and game went to queue messages. No this is about keeping players in the game. Players that whine about, gasp, having to pitch to a right hander with Chris Sale, Clayton Kershaw and Vida Blue. Got news for you, if you knew how to pitch that wouldn't be an issue. You ever see a manager in real life skip Sale or Kershaw's turn because the other lineup was stacked with righties? No cause when you get to a certain level it doesn't matter.

    Same with bunting. If you're so dumb or lazy that you're in "no doubles" formation with Dee Gordon leading off an inning and then start throwing off speed pitches in the lower half of the zone, you absolutely deserve the imminent runner on 3rd with no outs situation you're about to find yourself in. But no "that's not fair" to the button mashers so now 90% of bunts are basically ground balls to the bag. 

    Mark my words, pitching is their next target. Heck they're already screwing with it. Or do you actually think the increase in passed balls, wild pitches and this variable strike zone garbage were just "coding errors" they're going to fix next year. Nope, they're taking away the top of the zone, bottom of the zone and the corners. Cause you know, the guy trying to make orange juice out of a baseball needs the pitch down the middle and SDS will do everything they can to accommodate them.  

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  • 8 days ago

    They'll never switch it back because they clearly have had plenty of the "no child left behind" participation trophy Kool Aid so they pander to the lowest common denominator. Which are the players that wouldn't know an orange from a baseball if you gave them 3 bites and 2 chances to answer. The decision to get rid of showing the handedness of the pitcher had nothing to do with people backing out of games. You think a company with obsolete servers gives a crap about you having to try multiple times to get in a game?! If they did they would've upgraded their servers so you wouldn't get matchup failed, server errors, lost connections with opponent, and game went to queue messages. No this is about keeping players in the game. Players that whine about, gasp, having to pitch to a right hander with Chris Sale, Clayton Kershaw and Vida Blue. Got news for you, if you knew how to pitch that wouldn't be an issue. You ever see a manager in real life skip Sale or Kershaw's turn because the other lineup was stacked with righties? No cause when you get to a certain level it doesn't matter.

    Same with bunting. If you're so dumb or lazy that you're in "no doubles" formation with Dee Gordon leading off an inning and then start throwing off speed pitches in the lower half of the zone, you absolutely deserve the imminent runner on 3rd with no outs situation you're about to find yourself in. But no "that's not fair" to the button mashers so now 90% of bunts are basically ground balls to the bag. 

    Mark my words, pitching is their next target. Heck they're already screwing with it. Or do you actually think the increase in passed balls, wild pitches and this variable strike zone garbage were just "coding errors" they're going to fix next year. Nope, they're taking away the top of the zone, bottom of the zone and the corners. Cause you know, the guy trying to make orange juice out of a baseball needs the pitch down the middle and SDS will do everything they can to accommodate them.  

    Comment by BlackpoolFC73 9/13/2017 10:53PM

    I agree with almost all of your post (bunt, passed balls and variable zone), except the beginning part. How many games in real life do you pitch against a roster stacked with the best of the best and all opposite handedness? That makes no sense to be honest. It doesn't happen in real baseball. Your diamond dynasty team is nothing like a "real" MLB team so why compare it to that? That's what the bench is for.

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  • 8 days ago

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    I agree with almost all of your post (bunt, passed balls and variable zone), except the beginning part. How many games in real life do you pitch against a roster stacked with the best of the best and all opposite handedness? That makes no sense to be honest. It doesn't happen in real baseball. Your diamond dynasty team is nothing like a "real" MLB team so why compare it to that? That's what the bench is for.

    Comment by jetguy35 9/13/2017 11:30PM

    It makes no sense because you're putting words in my mouth. I never said stacked lineups with "best of the best". I said stacked with righties. And it's not that difficult to do. At least in the NL. Your 3B, 2B, SS and C are automatically right handed and more often than not also bat right or switch hit. Leaving your 3 outfield positions and 1B for possible lefties. Even if your team has lefties in all these positions you're likely to have at least 1 switch hitter. So most teams everyday lineup has at least 4 righties or switch hitters in it out of 8. So if you platoon in 2 righties, which most teams would do facing a premium left handed pitcher, then you have stacked your lineup with righties no? The fact that DD gives you access to the best of the best is not the point. The point is you shouldn't have to play with Impact Veteran Griffey against a  left hander when you have All Star Cain on your bench just because SDS wants to make it easier for people that don't know how to manage a lineup or aren't able to pitch to a right handed hitter with a friggin Cy Young award winner. It may not matter 6 months into the game. But it matters now with these events that force you to have an 80 overall lineup. It matters in the 1st 2 months when your best 1B options are IV Killebrew and IV McCovey. 

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  • 8 days ago

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    It makes no sense because you're putting words in my mouth. I never said stacked lineups with "best of the best". I said stacked with righties. And it's not that difficult to do. At least in the NL. Your 3B, 2B, SS and C are automatically right handed and more often than not also bat right or switch hit. Leaving your 3 outfield positions and 1B for possible lefties. Even if your team has lefties in all these positions you're likely to have at least 1 switch hitter. So most teams everyday lineup has at least 4 righties or switch hitters in it out of 8. So if you platoon in 2 righties, which most teams would do facing a premium left handed pitcher, then you have stacked your lineup with righties no? The fact that DD gives you access to the best of the best is not the point. The point is you shouldn't have to play with Impact Veteran Griffey against a  left hander when you have All Star Cain on your bench just because SDS wants to make it easier for people that don't know how to manage a lineup or aren't able to pitch to a right handed hitter with a friggin Cy Young award winner. It may not matter 6 months into the game. But it matters now with these events that force you to have an 80 overall lineup. It matters in the 1st 2 months when your best 1B options are IV Killebrew and IV McCovey. 

    Comment by BlackpoolFC73 9/13/2017 11:59PM

    "Players that whine about, gasp, having to pitch to a right hander with Chris Sale, Clayton Kershaw and Vida Blue. Got news for you, if you knew how to pitch that wouldn't be an issue. You ever see a manager in real life skip Sale or Kershaw's turn because the other lineup was stacked with righties?"

    Your words actually. 

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  • 8 days ago

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    I agree with almost all of your post (bunt, passed balls and variable zone), except the beginning part. How many games in real life do you pitch against a roster stacked with the best of the best and all opposite handedness? That makes no sense to be honest. It doesn't happen in real baseball. Your diamond dynasty team is nothing like a "real" MLB team so why compare it to that? That's what the bench is for.

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    Exactly. I don't see the problem the way it is. So people have a few hitters at a disadvantage (oh noes!). Considering that nearly everyone has line-ups consisting purely of clean-up hitters at their career peak, you would think people could learn to live with it.  

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  • 8 days ago

    In real life, teams have no idea if they are playing against a left or right hander and don't base their lineups off that information. Being able to create a vs. LHP and vs. RHP lineup at the "my squad" menu, even though the pregame lineup does and would not show if your facing a lefty or righty wouldn't work. Getting rid of the pregame lineup altogether wouldn't work either because the infinite amount of time you have to set your roster from the "my squad" menu isn't enough time to set your lineups.

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  • 8 days ago

    The solution to this is so simple.  Let us build a vs. RHP lineup and a vs. LHP lineup.  Whichever you face is what is automatically plugged in.  And, just make the loss for quitting start from the time a match is made.

    Not being able to build a lineup based on matchup is both unrealistic compared to real life, and asinine on its face.  The current "cure" is worse than the disease.

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  • 8 days ago

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    Something cool and realistic would be giving starting pitchers normal rest between starts. For example, a player who throws out his top starter back to back games would do so at his own risk. The starter would have no control due to fatigue, would be more hittable, and would be prone to injury. 

    Comment by esmlb_rop 9/13/2017 6:02PM

    This is what I want. If I want to hurt my chances of winning and throw Kershaw every game until his arm falls off I should be able to. I'm sure as someone who likes his starter to eat innings Kershaw will be of no use to me in games 2-5 because he'll almost certainly be pitching with no energy. 

    Plus with how Ranked Seasons is it would be great to get to Championship Series and be sitting at 895 and having to decide if I want to pitch Kershaw at 80% or my fifth starter at 100% for example.

    One other interesting thing that might be fun would be to have it where the rotation ... well obviously it can't be implemented this year but it would just be interesting to have a setup like this for rotation...

    1. Diamond or lower
    2. Gold or lower
    3. Silver or lower
    4. Bronze or lower
    5. Common

    That would be a game changer.

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